tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6556034524339788728.post438941192851873729..comments2024-02-25T23:28:33.908-05:00Comments on 70.8%: Jay Fitzgerald, SeasteaderThomas Armstronghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14692570096553186379noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6556034524339788728.post-18104305468934320402010-11-02T18:12:57.298-04:002010-11-02T18:12:57.298-04:00I lived in Squalicum Harbor in Bellingham,Wa. on G...I lived in Squalicum Harbor in Bellingham,Wa. on G dock while Jay was "living aboard" Renegade and also knew both he and his wife, at the time, while completing Macha in Fairhaven. Point is that while I don't know him very well as an individual I do find his books (self-published)to be technically of some benefit he has not really done much offshore sailing at all. I was on G dock for a solid three years and he was certainly no liveaboard. And that is at the dock. He and his ex did spend one summer sailing about the inland waters of Puget Sound and Canada but that was it. She was on the hard for about 2 years before he sold her off. Basically I just don't understand how anyone can take his opinions seriously. Technically I do think he knows how to sail a boat. Beyond that...let him go 'seastead' on a sailboat for a year or so and let us know how it worked out.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11894246569122685525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6556034524339788728.post-29579384841673808312008-10-16T00:28:00.000-04:002008-10-16T00:28:00.000-04:00Funny thing, after seeing the picture of Macha wit...Funny thing, after seeing the picture of Macha with the name in its distinctive lettering, I saw the boat itself and was very surprised! She docks just a quarter-mile up the estuary from where I have my boat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6556034524339788728.post-72036626034508878032008-10-15T00:17:00.000-04:002008-10-15T00:17:00.000-04:00"Where there is plenty of room, and the environmen..."Where there is plenty of room, and the environment is not exactly sensitive..." This ill-informed crap – has he even spent time at sea? – is coming from the most conspicuous and well-funded of the fixed seastead entrepreneurs. Bloody scarey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6556034524339788728.post-35118717260625451792008-10-15T00:01:00.000-04:002008-10-15T00:01:00.000-04:00GREAT! Floating platforms. Just what seafarers nee...GREAT! Floating platforms. Just what seafarers need – more inexactly charted, potentially drifting large objects to watch out for. Creed O'Hanlon has made the best case yet against this thinking – check out http://tiki38.blogspot.com/2008/09/sealand-part-one.html – he, at least, is a real seafarer with hardcore intellectual and geek credentials who has learned that just cos' you CAN do something doesn't mean you should.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6556034524339788728.post-40841685133743386962008-10-14T22:34:00.000-04:002008-10-14T22:34:00.000-04:00You can't make a village of 100 sailboats? Funny, ...You can't make a village of 100 sailboats? Funny, the Salone people have been doing exactly that for a thousand years.<BR/><BR/>http://www.projectmaje.org/gypsies.htm<BR/><BR/>Excuse me, your ignorance is showing!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6556034524339788728.post-76057662824034640412008-10-14T21:57:00.000-04:002008-10-14T21:57:00.000-04:00Who said anything about the coast, or its delicate...Who said anything about the coast, or its delicate environment? We are planning to start there, but the whole point of (my kind of) seasteading is to settle the deep ocean. Where there is plenty of room, and the environment is not exactly sensitive.<BR/><BR/>Unlike oil rigs, our platforms are free-floating.Patri Friedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00795471439484698201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6556034524339788728.post-82398739061659732332008-10-14T20:32:00.000-04:002008-10-14T20:32:00.000-04:00"We oil-rig seasteaders wish to build cities on th..."We oil-rig seasteaders wish to build cities on the ocean, not tribes of sea nomads."<BR/><BR/>I'm with catamaran on this one. I don't think building cities on oil rig platforms is such a good idea. It sounds aesthetically very unappealing and potentially a real drain on resources in delicate environs. I could perhaps be persuaded if I saw this in action, but in general I think we need to form smaller communities, not a hundred sailboats, but 3 or 5 or 9. I'm for thinking small and leaving as small a footprint/wake as possible.3brainerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11481160785323955204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6556034524339788728.post-34347749942632922042008-10-14T20:26:00.000-04:002008-10-14T20:26:00.000-04:00I think there is room for both seasteading flavors...I think there is room for both seasteading flavors; they address completely divergent needs and community models... and they certainly scale differently. Personally, I prefer agility and the freedom to migrate as needed. But existing decommissioned oil rigs could support some interesting islands of humanity as well.Steve Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507685175834941450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6556034524339788728.post-77062830891173942312008-10-14T19:50:00.000-04:002008-10-14T19:50:00.000-04:00A 100 more oil-rig platforms in an already crowded...A 100 more oil-rig platforms in an already crowded coastal ocean? The sheer inconsiderate arrogance in the first sentence here is appalling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6556034524339788728.post-90689619711705505332008-10-12T22:40:00.000-04:002008-10-12T22:40:00.000-04:00We oil-rig seasteaders wish to build cities on the...We oil-rig seasteaders wish to build cities on the ocean, not tribes of sea nomads. Platforms may be ungainly, but they scale incrementally much better. You cannot take 100 sailboats and make a village, or 10,000 and make a city. You can take 1 platform seastead and make a village, or 100 and make a city.<BR/><BR/>Different goals, different methods. Only time will tell which works the best. As far as I'm concerned, the more people out there trying different things, the better.Patri Friedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00795471439484698201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6556034524339788728.post-7936392859792304702008-10-11T13:25:00.000-04:002008-10-11T13:25:00.000-04:00I really enjoyed Seasteading on multiple levels, a...I really enjoyed <I>Seasteading</I> on multiple levels, and it's good to read your update on his activities. One other book of note in this domain is the classic (and now hard to find) <I>Sailing the Farm</I> by Neumeyer.<BR/><BR/>My own priorities for <I>S/V Nomadness</I> have shifted from high geekery (of which there will still be much, of course) to long-term self-sufficiency.<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/>SteveSteve Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507685175834941450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6556034524339788728.post-1179137984330115672008-10-10T16:45:00.000-04:002008-10-10T16:45:00.000-04:00He recently had a two-part interview on the Furled...He recently had a two-part interview on the Furled Sails podcast (#141, 142). He certainly came accross as someone who doesn't lack for opinions!<BR/><BR/>http://furledsails.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6556034524339788728.post-75608152170860188372008-10-10T01:38:00.000-04:002008-10-10T01:38:00.000-04:00right about now, jay might be regretting selling t...right about now, jay might be regretting selling that boat. it's hard to run when your home is on foundations and hard dirt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com